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  • to BadceeJay1975
    add this slide to above context Booom

    From Console to cloud , Who co-engineered for RT vision from console to cloud




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    • Misterx
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      they will still not listen. Lets them full themselfs until first games will arrive.

      Sony studios will ignore RT as far as they can in their games. BEcause using RT on Ps5 will be costly.

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    my new gaming room - giant projector 250'' screen :) no coming back to TVs

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    • mistercteam
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      woooooww ….
      impressive MrX

    • MEGATRON 631
      MEGATRON 631 commented
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      Awesome! What type of sound system in there?

    • Misterx
      Misterx commented
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      MEGATRON 631 we bought all the house with furniture and tech inside.

      3 years old some 7.1 samsung.

      But its ok for now as not play much

    • banmaster
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      Niiice Bro :)

      For me LG OLED

    • Misterx
      Misterx commented
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      will upgrade to 4k projector at year end. Any ideas what to buy - the cheapest but good one? did not research that yet.

    • FLASHBACKMAN
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      if you don't waste much money for a good 4k projector maybe one of the best affordable/quality options is BENQ TK800-M

      The M version is real 4k

    • G-Force
      G-Force commented
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      Misterx the new projectors from Epson seem to be the sweet spot for 4K, HDR & Price. The newer ones support the HDMI 2 etc also for 60 FPS 4K HDR. I will most likely be getting one of these to replace my older projector myself.

  • more confirmation again ….
    PS5 is 7 not 7+

    NG RDNA is 7+ only

    even AMD slide confirming it about PS5!!
    sl1=PS5 is 7nm !!!! not 7+

    sl2=AMD RT vision, RDNA/navi vs NG RDNA
    sl3=AMD lisa tsu transcript to reconfirm sl1
    sl4=boom 7nm is Navi(RDNA) , 7+ is NG RDNA














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    • hasmeh
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      A good spot!

  • and finally DF even mentioned it

    where this RT core comes from !!!
    seem Sony dont have it so do PC

    https://twitter.com/Valkyrie_GR/stat...97304590266369

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6rceRip3X4

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    • Misterx
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      thats good. i thought they will brainwash too.

    • OrionWolf
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      Not going to claim anything, but here's an interesting question. Why isn't Sony coming out and saying they have HW RT as well? It would be so easy for someone like Ryan (or any Sony representative) to claim they have HW RT as well and take away the spotlight from MS. They did that Wired article, they showed a Spider-man loading demo, 6 days ago they came out with the info that the ps5 can do 120fps. And yet nothing about HW RT. Why is that? Back to you in the studio Andrew/Matt.

      Lol, have seen the DF tweet, lol where are the ps fanboys now? Why did Sony say "supports" RT? I'm not putting RT as the be all and end all of next gen, but era thought so and now they're creating narratives from suddenly confirmed insiders ... lmao the panic.
      Last edited by OrionWolf; 06-11-2019, 07:02 PM.

    • mistercteam
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      ha ha Good Orion ….

    • mistercteam
      mistercteam commented
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      MrX
      DF probably almost doing what they do as they brainwash too but
      then see all material AMD and etc they start to think hmmm our integrity is in question, now we can be blamed if not said the truth lol ….

    • angryguy77
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      Hilarious at era over this. They don't have actual proof that the ps5 has it, but "matt said it does" so it 100% fact. These kids there have found a way to enrage and entertain me at the same time.

    • scottvxr
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      I know one thing for an absolute fact.....Spider man was artistic...lee downgraded🤣.

    • scottvxr
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      O shit I just pissed myself laughing a bigger puddle 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • Riz
      Riz commented
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      Now they hoping PS5 use HBM2 and DDR4.

    • Riz
      Riz commented
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      angryguy77 I think if xbox didn't confirm hw rt, matt probably say xbox use sw rt and ps5 hw rt.

    • mistercteam
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      indeed Riz, infact before the MS E3 that what they keep drumming, MS is SW RT

  • With the Scarlett things, I think next Forza Motorsport game could be 8K. Turn10 studio can do it.

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    • OrionWolf
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      Possibly yeah, but I'd rather 4k and throw the rest at visuals, physics etc.

    • Direct X-Static
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      8K/60 or 4K/120 I could see happening.

    • hasmeh
      hasmeh commented
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      I highly doubt it. They have only mentioned 8k capability, so i personally think we will 4k with lots of visual detail and graphics upgrade. Maybe updated simulation models.

  • another BC wizard so far proven only on Xbox One Family/X1X
    this is FC feature
    all asset+etc representation is improved
    amazing

    Chaos Theory
    Xbox vs X1X






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    • Direct X-Static
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      Holy crap!

    • DutchRogers
      DutchRogers commented
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      Damn, Forward Compatible and it looks like that! IMPRESSIVE!!!

  • what if lockheart is X1X with ray tracing activated? :)

    seems lockheart talks are muted now DF say

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    • Direct X-Static
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      I honestly think that the 2019 video we saw was running on 1X with ray tracing because the 2018 video looked more detailed to me after re-watching them both. I posted this yesterday too, but what if "Lockhart" is a reference to the "heart" of the Xbox One family being "locked" away until the software was ready? Halo Infinite is supposed to "unlock" the full power of the current consoles, right?

    • Misterx
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      ohhh....oh my dear....speachless

      that solved the puzzle...

      Direct X Static you are...you are...thanks

      Just re read all your posts for previous 7 pages and the picture is clear now completely...

      :)

    • mistercteam
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      look what I said mrX on prev page
      someone ask where is lockhart

      I said look at the video you see why there is no X2 SOC
      X1X will become new base model ….
      X1X is become the lockhart
      X2 of course better , next year we will see it as chiplet

      but as always I always admired your intuitive mind,,,,
      yep untapped xbox one

      Xbox infinite the whole time

      so far my birdie is right

      next year if no changes
      seems so far all played out well include AMD begin to show
      basically MS angry mode
      nextyear HW blowout, include X1 family

    • mistercteam
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      infact if people know
      why MS is 8K 120
      untapped of X1X is

    • mistercteam
      mistercteam commented
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      congrats to both mrX and Direct X
      soon
      next year,

      in the mean time Gear of war and all AAA 3rd party unlocked to showed as 4K some even 60 FPS too
      imagine last year X1X mocked to be un capable to do 4K

    • Misterx
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      it is all you mrC to congtarts most. you were the driving force of this place even if our hope was low.

      imagine how only few of us in the whole word could dig this up and believe what we find even if everything was against us. we are special 50 out of millions. :))))) no proudly just a fact

    • mistercteam
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      infact somehow
      halo infinite trailer is fit with al of this

      discover Hope !!!!
      Last edited by mistercteam; 06-11-2019, 11:29 PM.

    • scottvxr
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      People forgot about Ryse Son Of Rome😉.....

      Why has this game never been X1X enhanced I ask you?.....
      Last edited by scottvxr; 06-12-2019, 12:51 AM.

    • mistercteam
      mistercteam commented
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      Ryse still one of best Graphically
      and interestingly one of Crytek finest work too
      and they stated using esram effectively

    • scottvxr
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      Go back and play the launch game of Xbox One and you'll see it though different eyes now believe me😉. Rise Son Of Rome wasn't/should'nt be capable on a 1.3tflop console!!! Microsoft gave us a taste of the future in 2013 but the water was muddy before it left the gate😏.

    • Direct X-Static
      Direct X-Static commented
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      @ Mr. X and Mr. C

      Thank you for the compliments guys and you're welcome Mr. X! If it weren't for this site though, from Live Journal days until now, I would know nothing about any of this though so thank you guys as well. I've said it before but I'm really not joking when I say that I don' know how to defrag a HDD (that's why I like console gaming so much)... I just really enjoy solving complex puzzles, always believed in the digging, and found all the technology fascinating to read about.

      FYI Mr. X, I am proud to be a part of this community which is why I keep encouraging our returning OG's to at least post every so often instead of just lurking about!

  • There maybe a reason why they're saying 4 x more powerful without quoting a tflop number. I read this today and it compares navi to the equivalent nvidia card. It out performs the nvidia with a lower tflop rating.

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...-xt-full-specs

    The notion of Navi's 9.75TF outperforming Vega's 12.6TF may well be the reason why the next-gen consoles - both based on AMD's latest GPU architecture - won't be marketed based on teraflop numbers alone in the way that Xbox One X was. AMD has pushed IPC hard with Navi, with a new compute unit design with a 2x increase in instruction rate, twice the scalar units and schedulers. There's reduced execution latency, improved cache efficiency and a new cache hierarchy. Today's teraflop with Navi clearly delivers a lot more real-life gaming performance than last gen's Vega.

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    • Can someone translate this for me please
      Or explain what's the impression they got from the xcloud demo? Thanks
       

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      • RaM5eS
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        He is very impressed with the performance. He says he feels very fluid, very fast, like you're playing in a console. He also comments that it is impressive that the game is being played 400 km away.

      • mistercteam
        mistercteam commented
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        +12

      • fluffyknuckles
        fluffyknuckles commented
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        Oh ok cool thanks

    • mrX

      this to lock-hart
      unlocked it …

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      • Misterx
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        yep MrC. always been here.

        now i understand why it went as it went.

        Insider thanks a lot for giving us ideas 5+ years ahead of execution

        hats off too everybody here and at Microsoft. pure genius. respect.

      • scottvxr
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        I've got the 🔑

      • mistercteam
        mistercteam commented
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        indeed MrX
        so far your insider is right

        and interestingly somehow it is like fate or what
        right before GDC I had my own birdie source
        which all inline


    • Got something to reinforce further the hardware vs software implementation! Check out Digital foundrys 30 min e3 analysis video from today. They have some inside info and suggest that Xbox choose/developed hardware RT vs Sony’s software method. Good listen to read between the lines. Also, digital foundry is meeting with AMD this week to get more understanding about AMD chips including possibly those with respect to the Scarlet and PS5. Next day or so will be interesting from digital foundry that is more than just non techie tech bloggers. Check link:

      https://youtu.be/Y6rceRip3X4

      Scarlet info starts about 15minutes into this video!
      Last edited by DutchRogers; 06-12-2019, 01:05 AM.

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      • mistercteam
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      • DutchRogers
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        Thank you MrC! Sorry, missed it, didn't see link when I quick scanned. For those that haven't listened, it is interesting and syncs up with what has been posted by MrC and others on here. "Microsoft said hardware accelerated RT...it would have to be extra silicon built specifically for this machine (Scarlet) because it is not a part of Navi." "Microsoft specifically mentioned Hardware RT, Sony didn't message (hardware RT), Sony's messaging about RT was very flimsy, and talking about RT audio". BOOM!!! Also, the commentary that Lockhart may not be a thing after all, perhaps the S and/or X will be the lower tier and xCloud will fill in the gaps for games that exceed the power limitations of the S and X. This is a big deal video reading between lines and everything is coming together.


        WHEN LOCKHART TURNS OUT TO BE THE $199 XBOX S (likely pricing if not lower at the end of 2020, AND THE ANACONDA IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PS5. Art of War is right!!! LMAO.
        Last edited by DutchRogers; 06-12-2019, 01:11 AM.

      • MEGATRON 631
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        All this good info, and I haven't seen this term in a while..........
        .......
        ......
        BOOOOM!

      • Direct X-Static
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        Hell yeah, Dutch! With MS taking ray tracing development from, "the console to the cloud", I could see MS making the XB1s last quite a bit longer as a 1080p machine. We all know the 2013 HW was designed to run hybrid cloud gaming and ray tracing and MS even said they had a 10 year road map for XB1 at the beginning!

      • scottvxr
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        When questioned in a recent interview Phil Spencer said people are still playing on X360....the DX box in full effect 😎.

      • BadCeeJay1975
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        Yes all makes sense now taking the all the current information coming out and comparing it to the stuff from the live journal days! The Xbox One SAD not looking so sad now is it :)

        Just like MS said, its cheaper than the S, currently £169.99 on Amazon compared to bare bones S at £187. It will be going below £150 during holidays maybe even an aggressive £129 to compete with Stadia :)
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