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  • xCloud: iOS vs Android, Which Platform is Better? (Brad Sams New Video)



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    • ScarlettEdge
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      I can already predict the winner before even clicking the video link.

  • https://twitter.com/technology/statu...760044546?s=21

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    • https://twitter.com/6d6f636869/statu...661391872?s=21

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      • https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony%...units.1525860/

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        • RaM5eS
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          Sony’s Chief Executive Officer Kenichiro Yoshida has said the business should be judged by the number of active users, not the number of hardware units sold.

          Lol xD

        • Direct X-Static
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          "Sony’s Chief Executive Officer Kenichiro Yoshida has said the business should be judged by the number of active users, not the number of hardware units sold."

          Where have I heard that phrase, "active users" before... and I wonder what the Ponies will think about this? 😂

        • ScarlettEdge
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          I know right? Reset era is in full damage control.

        • scottvxr
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          The soothing of the Pony brain is in full effect. By the time PS5 launches Power will be niche, it'll be all about how long Geoffrey's face can stretch🤣😂.

        • Blaze_ATX
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          Pony-Era and Pony-Gaf are spinning this news much faster than a tornado. 😂🤣

          :)

        • ScarlettEdge
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          Lol

      • They banned timdog from the next gen thread on NeoGAF.

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        • Blaze_ATX
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          What a bunch of whiny losers.

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        • ScarlettEdge
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          Yep. He was gonna expose them, and their bias shows clear as day. Pathetic Sony fanboys

        • ScarlettEdge
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          And they actually banned him from the site

        • Misterx
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          We live in a world where lies became truth all over anything

        • ScarlettEdge
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          Yea and I know which group of people are the biggest liars of them all.

        • Direct X-Static
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          @ Mister X

          I think the world has always been that way, and always will. unfortunately. Nice guys finish last.

      • This is about when I really first seen the Pony in Geoffrey. Just listen to him mocking Major......yep.yep.yep.WOOW

        https://youtu.be/QqFFa4WFYBg

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        • ScarlettEdge
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          I don’t want to give them youtube money by clicking the link. Can you give a summary?

        • scottvxr
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          The bit were Major points out to the audience it'll do 4K video and Geoffrey says very quickly "I Know!" Well you prick some of the audience may not! I swear I saw the salt in the steam coming from his ears🤣😂🤣😂.



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          • BadCeeJay1975
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            Don't forget Xcloud streaming to mobile, PC and whatever other devices get support.

          • Direct X-Static
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            $450 for 9tf RDNA and soome type of off die HW for RT
            $460 to $520 for 12tf RDNA 2, HW accelerated RT cores on die, VRS and ML tech too

            Sounds like we know why Sony isn't saying anything about PS5.

        • Sony Is Struggling With PlayStation 5 Price Due to Costly Parts



          Scarce components have pushed the manufacturing costs for Sony Corp.’s next PlayStation to around $450 per unit, forcing a difficult price-setting decision in its battle with Microsoft Corp., according to people with knowledge of the matter.

          The Japanese conglomerate is preparing to gradually replace the six-year-old PS4 console, releasing its PlayStation 5 the same holiday season its archrival debuts the upcoming Xbox Series X. Sony typically finalizes a console’s price in February of the release year, followed by mass production in the spring. With the PS5, the company is taking a wait-and-see approach, said the people, asking not to be named because the details are private.

          The PS4, released in 2013 at a retail price of $399, was estimated by IHS Markit to cost $381 to manufacture. With the $450 unit cost and a similar gross margin, the PlayStation 5’s retail price would have to be at least $470. That would be a hard sell to consumers, considering Sony’s most expensive machine now is the $399.99 PS4 Pro and is often discounted, according to Macquarie Capital analyst Damian Thong.

          “Consumers will benchmark their expectations based on the PS4 Pro and PS4,” Thong said. “If Sony prices above that, it would likely be to balance a need to offset higher materials cost, against risk to demand.”


          Sony declined to comment.


          The company’s biggest headache is ensuring a reliable supply of DRAM and NAND flash memory, with both in high demand as smartphone makers gear up for fifth-generation devices, according to people familiar with Sony’s operations. Samsung Electronics Co. just announced its Galaxy S20 product range, each variant of which will have 5G and a minimum of 12GB of RAM in the U.S.

          Videogame companies often sell hardware at thin margins or even at a loss because they profit from lucrative game software and recurring online subscription services. Sony’s Chief Executive Officer Kenichiro Yoshida has said the business should be judged by the number of active users, not the number of hardware units sold. Some Sony games staff think it should sell the new console at a loss if necessary to match Microsoft’s price, while other Sony executives would prefer to make money as the company did with the PS4.

          “We must keep PlayStation 5’s bill of materials under our control and we need to make the correct number of units in the initial production,” Sony’s Chief Financial Officer Hiroki Totoki said at an earnings briefing earlier this month.

          Most of the components for the console have been locked down, the people said, including the cooling system, which is unusually expensive at a few dollars per unit. Typically, companies would spend less than a dollar, but Sony opted to lavish more on making sure heat dissipation from the powerful chips housed inside the console isn’t an issue.

          The ongoing coronavirus outbreak has had no impact so far on preparations for PlayStation 5 production, they said. The company has yet to decided how many PlayStation 5 units it will make in the first year, they added.

          Separately, Sony plans to release a new version of the PlayStation VR virtual-reality headset, tentatively scheduled after the PlayStation 5 goes on sale, the people said.

          Sony has already canceled some previously planned features for a new mirrorless camera due this year owing to the constrained DRAM supply, several people with knowledge of the matter said.

          Sony executives are voicing patience about the next console’s pricing as they anticipate the transition to be a gradual one, said people familiar with its day-to-day operations. Many of the games launched for the PlayStation 5 will also be available to play on the predecessor machine, so revenue from software and related network services is expected to keep the business performance intact. Microsoft and Sony are both expanding their respective online subscription services, revenue from which may allow them greater flexibility on hardware pricing.

          People within the PlayStation business unit said a key factor in deciding the ultimate PlayStation 5 retail price will be where Microsoft sets its price for the next-generation Xbox Series X. Microsoft is widely expected to hold that information back until the E3 gaming expo in Los Angeles in June.

          There is pressure from CFO Totoki for Sony to provide more transparency and information in the buildup to the PS5’s release, which has caused some consternation internally. Asked about when he expects Sony to provide guidance on the gaming business outlook for the new fiscal year, Totoki said the plan is no different from the recent past, meaning the guidance can be expected around the end of April.

          If the company takes longer than usual, analysts may look to its next investor relations meeting to glean hints about the new console’s retail price. The company held that meeting in late May last year.




          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...o-costly-parts

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          • Joddington
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            MS can better absorb a lower margin on the console itself because they do better on subscriptions; it's almost like they planned for the future.

          • veraces
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            Interesting indeed Blaze last gen Sonys HW gamble on GDDR payed pff perhaps this time around a risky HW choice has bacfired.

          • ScarlettEdge
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            Sony is going to get lamb roasted from every direction.

          • BadCeeJay1975
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            Things are not sounding great for Sony, a damage control article like this appears to be preparing the market for a higher than expected price, constrained supply along with thermal issues as well! This could be a major problem and almost a perfect storm against the PS5;

            Higher price than XSX
            Lower performance than XSX
            Lower availability compared to XSX
            Cheap build quality (to try and claw back some of that high unit cost)
            Jet engine fans again!

            Sony better have a flawless dashboard and some amazing exclusives or they are going to have a hard sell against Xbox.

          • BadCeeJay1975
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            Question: If MS come in under priced with the XSX compared to the PS5 will they shelve Lockhart completely?

          • Blaze_ATX
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            @BadCeeJay1975

            Agree with you but, for me the following quote is very concerning, Sony better not lied to investors.


            Quote: "There is pressure from CFO Totoki for Sony to provide more transparency and information in the buildup to the PS5’s release, which has caused some consternation internally. "

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          • Blaze_ATX
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            @BadCeeJay1975

            Quote: " Question: If MS come in under priced with the XSX compared to the PS5 will they shelve Lockhart completely? "

            I don't think so, the reason for Lockhart to exist is they can go all in with Series X at a premium price and Lockhart a next gen console at consumer friendly price, IMO.

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          • BadCeeJay1975
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            Blaze_ATX I see it the same way too. I think MS will keep Lockhart in the back pocket and if we don't hear anything further about it 6 months after XSX releases then we are not getting it at all.

          • hasmeh
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            No wonder Sony are selling their exclusives now.

          • Blaze_ATX
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            @BadCeeJay1975

            I think Microsoft is waiting for Sony to announce the price for the PS5 first, then they will reveal Lockhart (Xbox Series S) at $299.99 or $349.99.

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          • scottvxr
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            .........with the same power as the PS5......could you imagine the fallout 😂👌

          • BadCeeJay1975
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            scottvxr oh yes, that would be glorious. Seeing a mass Pony meltdown is just such an enertaining treat.

          • Blaze_ATX
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            If that happen...Oooh the pony's meltdowns. 😁😂🤣

            :)

          • scottvxr
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            Using a modified X1X chip for Lockhart in the same case as XSX, overclocking etc......🤔

          • Direct X-Static
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            MS could be waiting on Lockhart in order to make it competitive with the PS5 on power. We already know it will be lower in price, so making it on par in performance would be a killer move.



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          • Blaze_ATX
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            Well deserved, the elite controller v2 is perfect, IMO.

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          • banmaster
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            pure five for microsoft, and i believe good profits by the way until the release of xbox serie x





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