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  • Eurogamer DF is definitely a Sony whore.... Now, Batman is a "tour de force" because it is better than.... previous version on PS3 ! Are they serious ? It would be a "tour de force" if the game would have been developed with the last UE engine instead of the old one and would have 60 fps framerate. I can accept that PS4 version is better than XboxOne version because of 900p (even if i do not care myself of 900p) but it is not at all a "tour de force". Marketing's deal of Sony for Batman seems to also include biased media... ;)
    The launch of Batman: Arkham Knight may have been blighted by the arrival of PC train-wreck, but let's be clear - Rocksteady's console game is a slickly pre…
    Last edited by babylonn75; 06-24-2015, 10:35 AM.

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    • hasmeh
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      They want clicks and right now saying good things about PS4 gets them clicks.

    • paulo moreira
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      yeah babylonn75 its sad when we the gamers (depending of what hardware of choice they have) have to see journalism or whatever follow agendas and not try to educate or give us the right information and create confusion and sometimes hate between the ones who really want to enjoy games and have fun .

      i guess the money its to blame because if we lived in a world were there was no need of money i guess people would react differently

  • Does anyone see a difference between PS4 and XboxOne version ? Are they really sure XBoxOne is 900p and PS4 is 1080p ? Because, for my eyes, i cannot see any difference at all. Same "blurry" game on PS4 and XBoxOne. There is something weird, perhaps it comes from video encoding.
     

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    • Dakriz
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      you tube block at my job so i cant see any vid sucks to be me.

    • cheggers
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      it' is hard to tell. The AA on all 3 looks a bit poor but they all look great. I can handle 900p with good aa and a stable framerate. It matters little to me, I only own an x1 so as long as the game aint buggy I shall play and enjoy. I was one of the few people who thought dead rising 3 was the most impressive game on launch due to its amazing ai count.

    • Parasite76
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      The AA is interesting at best. Gameplay definitely has more issues than cutscenes. I only played up to ivy so still to early to judge.

  • Originally posted by Parasite76 View Post
    Can we make a password protected thread that only trusted founding members have access to? I'm having second thoughts about some things and I think it's time for show and tell for the trusted members. ;)
    I'd certainly been interested in hearing additional background information. Don't think mrX had me listed as an original member though.

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    • Originally posted by babylonn75 View Post
      Does anyone see a difference between PS4 and XboxOne version ? Are they really sure XBoxOne is 900p and PS4 is 1080p ? Because, for my eyes, i cannot see any difference at all. Same "blurry" game on PS4 and XBoxOne. There is something weird, perhaps it comes from video encoding.
      I'm playing on Xbox...
      In a 51" screen (sitting not to far) I notticed that isn't 1080p.
      You can see that the edges are a little thick than when the game is in native resolution of your TV.
      It's like Ryse, barelly affect.
      Anyway it's just my perception. I would not be surprise if batman is running at fullhd.
      And yes, there is FPS drop when we drive the tank.
      But, a great game.

      --

      Sorry for the brazilian english. :p

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      • babylonn75
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        Sure, i trust you, but my point is that basically PS4 version looks the same, with same blur and aliasing than XboxOne version. It would be interesting to test the same with PS4 but i suspect you must have the same result on your 51" big screen.

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    • Higher quality textures are what do it for more, go first person and look at the batmobile, or other characters, walls or even the wet ground. Looks very good.

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      • Xbox One backward compatibility made us believe greatness awaits


        For once Microsoft turned the tables on Sony and made us believe greatness awaits for the Xbox One.
        Last edited by paulo moreira; 06-24-2015, 12:14 PM.

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        • XBOX ONE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY SUPPORTS XBOX 360 DLC, ACHIEVEMENTS, MORE

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          • Strange that most people believe that Sony won E3.

            Is shenmue, Ff7, uncharted, and Horizon really that great?

            I am referencing the Kotaku poll.

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            • QuazL
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            • Misterx
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              Microsoft brand is dead and MS do too little to WOW..i am sure MS MBAs think they do all right when in reality they are not.

            • Seiya di Pegaso
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              Marketing wise Sony is doing a great job with PS4. They won E3 with vapourware.

            • splay912
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              Don't forget the Last Guardian! Apparently people picked Sony because FF7, Shenmue and the Last Guardian were complete "surprises" and criticize MS for simply presenting what was known... An interesting and hypocritical position. If MS would have presented Shenmue as an xbox exclusive they would've been heavily criticized as being "anti-gamer" much in the same way the media has avoided covering or saying much about Tomb Raider.

            • babylonn75
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              Horizon will surely be great. FF7 and Shenmue is only a "marketing" announcement but it has worked.

            • Seiya di Pegaso
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              Last Guardian will be out 2016-2017, FF7 it's a remake and still a 6 months timed exclusive, Shenmue 3 it's a crowdfunding project that will be out for Dec 2017 for pc also and probably other consoles too. Sony won best e3 2017...

            • F00xm4n
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              the problem is simple, more people own PS4 and have been taken in by the hype. It takes a while for somebody to admit they are wrong without a mega boom and sites like eurogamer and DF don't help.

          • Originally posted by Parasite76 View Post
            Can we make a password protected thread that only trusted founding members have access to? I'm having second thoughts about some things and I think it's time for show and tell for the trusted members. ;)
            As a contributor to your journey to E3, there is a part of me that desires closure as to what, how and why your promised coverage went awry. I've deduced that part of it was a result of another site and part of it seems to stem from seeking or presenting information about the xbox that isn't necessarily yours or even this sites place to do. While we'd all like MS to be more forthcoming, the reality is they're implementing their game plan as they see fit and apparently any exposure about the xbox's configuration beyond what MS has said/released hurts more than helps if MS isn't ready to disclose it... That's my take!

            Again, would I like to have closure... Sure! But I think any "inside" information you have would best be presented within the context of pure speculation or grain of salt. You need to keep your head down and just be a gamer expressing (like the majority of us here) what you hope to see or even believe could happen. Else you're simply adding fuel for others to use against you.

            Jus my thoughts!

            Game ON... One United!

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            • Parasite76
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              Agreed

            • chefsledg
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              I'm not sure I agree with MS's approach here. What keeps a community interested is the rumors. Without those, it's just stale. Was I upset that I knew BC might come out and they finally announced it at E3? Heck No! It was a big surprise knowing the details.

              I also contributed but I think it sucks for Parasite to get blamed for any of this. Nothing like going and getting a big FU from people he thought he trusted.

              BTW, I love the comments!

          • Wasteland 2 - Directors Cut (Console Edition)

            This looks nice. I have played it on laptop and am going to definitely get on X1.

            Last edited by hasmeh; 06-24-2015, 12:38 PM.

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            • Dakriz
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              i want this yup

          • Gears of War - Ultimate Edition (Nearly 800k unique users) The Coalition (formerly Black Tusk) released some stats regarding the Gears of War: Ultimate Edition beta.
            You can check out the graphic below which shows that 120 years worth of hours have been played, more than 40 million kills have occurred, and 786,415 unique users have played the game among other stats.
            That's a lot of chainsaws! Check out these stats from the Gears of War: Ultimate Edition BETA :) pic.twitter.com/1SlzSncKR1
            — Gears of War (@GearsofWar) June 24, 2015
            For more on Gears of War: Ultimate Edition – which is a full remake, not just a remasterhead here to read an interview with The Coalition studio head, Rod Fergusson.

            http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...en-played.aspx

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            • Originally posted by QuazL View Post
              Strange that most people believe that Sony won E3.

              Is shenmue, Ff7, uncharted, and Horizon really that great?

              I am referencing the Kotaku poll.
              No, they don't. They are just pro-Sony no matter what, so they do what SDF members are supposed to do, and that's it.

              I liked Sony's E3, but MS conference was just perfect and they all know it. By the way, Kotaku sucks.

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              • Originally posted by hardway View Post


                C'mon Dwayne, aren't you even a little bit curious about what went down? I know I am. The fact that I donated to the cause makes me even more so.
                yep...Dwayne...you've been around a while so you should know the deal as should everybody. NOT all the information here is for everybody's liking. Don't read the stuff you don't care about and move on. Not sure what your trying to prove friend? You sound like those nut cases on the 'other ' site who attack any positive Xbox news. Maybe you should go join the stalkers..lol..maybe..you have. ;)

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                • xreadmore
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                  You've become a little mean spirited lately. You accuse me of being a Sony troll or whatever, and now Dwayne is a nut case? The reason I come here is because we can all have opinions and freely discuss them like mature people, it's really not helpful to just name-call, EVEN if we say things you disagree with. You're great at posting news and I respect you, but maybe just tone down the "anyone-with-critical-views-has-an-agenda" speech.

                  I know there are passionate people here but can we not stoop to name calling and wild accusations? I like to think we're all on the same team and we can have discussion with a little criticism now and then.

                  Dwayne was right. Insider stuff is not helping Xbox right now. Everyone get's worked up with fake news of 1080p patches and DX12 super powers, and when it doesn't happen it hurts all of us. Keep Insider stuff out. INVESTIGATE yes, but let's not try to pretend we know facts when it's just speculation. Rumor and predictions are fun when we all know it's just that.

                • Parasite76
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                  For how long us saying bc/fc here only to have the baby thrown out with the bath water. There is more revelations coming but it's not job to tell you what and when. Just like Phil said at e3, they are just scratching the surface.

                • revben
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                  I come for hardware investigation mrc and all the xdx stuff that proves how powerful xbox one is. Whenever, we see the true power of xbox one is up to terry and this team. So i can wait.

                • Smash_mouth
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                  @xreadmore...you were trolling and I wasn't the only person that called you out about it. You were offended and you should of been...no reason to cry now. Funny how you stopped right away. Maybe for Gamescon right..." "c'mon everybody, admit it Sony the best " :/

                  As for Dwayne...he's still attacking parasite and talking nonsense. This from a guy who claims that AMD workers in Northern Ontario gave him inside information...LMFAO...I'm not saying he's a liar like his NEW friends would, OR post a picture of him and his house, call xbox help line and ask them about a second GPU and if they know a Dwayne...o_0...email/text and harass anybody that knows him, create a twitter page calling him a liar and stalk his every internet move...no, that would be crazy RIGHT...hello, anybody home??

              • Someone of you can see PS4 exclusive in this list??

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                • People Can Fly Are...FREE Again...

                  "People Can Fly is currently working on its new game and continues to collaborate with Epic Games"





                  ...hmmm...new game??

                  http://www.peoplecanfly.com/
                  Last edited by Smash_mouth; 06-24-2015, 04:37 PM.

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                  • MEGATRON 631
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                    After what People Can Fly did to GOW: Judgement I'm leary of anything with their name attached to it, lol

                  • hipeople5100
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                    Didn't they do Gears 3 and bulletstorm?
                    Last edited by hipeople5100; 06-24-2015, 04:35 PM.

                  • Smash_mouth
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                    @mega...I'm hoping for Bulletstorm 2 myself...loved that game. :)

                  • Smash_mouth
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                    @hipeople...yep..not Gears 3 but Judgement. :)

                  • MEGATRON 631
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                    I'm pretty sure Bulletstorm, but I don't think GOW3

                  • hasmeh
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                    They might have worked on Judgement but they also worked on Bulletstorm which is one of my favourite.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOFNdbIVFT4

                • Apologies if already posted but Amazon Uk are selling the XB1+Batman for £249 until 30th June - Pretty good deal that
                  Online shopping for Xbox One Plus Game from a great selection at PC & Video Games Store.

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                  • Very good stuff. Apparently biggest minecraft pixel art. Like the attention to detail:

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                    • Gears of War - Ultimate Edition (New trailer):



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                      • I think I did not said it clear. What is done with deletion is for better future here. We still will be the first to know. Always. Just without Insider.

                        Still can't talk everything yet. But by year end you will all know why LJ was deleted. No its not because it was all lies. Its because 180 opposite

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                        • srenia_ia
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                          So right. When a site like this gets to close to the sun... lot of legalities in this world at this time. Safe to say that the track record was better than other sites, to the extreme.

                        • chefsledg
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                          MS can't sue you for rumors because in reality that is what it was. I still think it would be cool if you had a summary of things from LJ.

                        • revben
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                          We did leak hololens and back compact, I think that grounds for sue.

                        • chefsledg
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                          When did someone say it was 100% guaranteed? If I found out something that "may" be true and posted it, there's no grounds for anything. And Hololens was part of that document that someone leaked from MS that basically showed the next 5 years or whatever. I'm sure this community did not leak that document.

                        • Parasite76
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                          Bingo! I can't wait for that day. MRX, it is show and tell that day I promise ;)

                      • hold on, what did I miss? Why is insider gone and why is parasite being burned at the stake? Is it on another thread because I didn't see anything about this in the previous 22 pages?

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                      • I think the parasite bashing needs to relax for the moment. I know I haven't always posted a lot, but I've been here almost everyday since before Xbox one launched. I've seen people come and go, and parasite, in my opinion, was always a welcomed, valued member here who was straight forward on honest. Now one thing doesn't work out the way stone of you want we burn him at the stake? That ain't cool, as parasite added a lot to this community in the past and I hope continues to do so in the future. To hell with predictions and what came true, as anyone who worked in any you're of tech industry knows plans change and deadlines move. What was true yesterday can no longer be true today, and might true again tomorrow. That's tech!

                        Until we know what actually went down at E3 with parasite let's assume his reasons for stepping back for a bit and getting startled were legitimate. On the opposite side of the coin, hopefully sometime sooner than later we'll hear the whole story of what actually happened with parasite at E3

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                      • Agree with dwayne about 4tflops machine. Never believed in that scenario honestly. You pay for what you get. It will be better with time, with dx12 for sure. It's not 1,3tflops, probably the 2,6tflops (10x better than 360) it's the right guess and will be huge anyway.

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                        • srenia_ia
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                          It's really to put a number on it. Movement of data is big deal. Having the HSA compute allows for a much higher usage of available resources. Love AMD ripping into GDDR5 because of how inefficient it is. You notice HBM Fury isn't so hot on Directx 11.x. Directx 12.x is another story completely.

                        • revben
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                          You do not need to believe, just read the xdx!!!

                        • srenia_ia
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                          I agree I don't have to believe. :-). What's the use of power if you can't use it. Aka PS4 diminishing memory bandwidth when using its CPU on GDDR5

                        • Seiya di Pegaso
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                          I know that Xbox one has some innovative tech but it's still a 300£ piece of hardware. You can't compare it with 300£ or even more expensive gpu.

                        • srenia_ia
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                          A HSA virtual fixed function hardware is very different in abilities than just a GPU.
                          Last edited by srenia_ia; 06-24-2015, 09:13 PM.

                        • theGrimm77
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                          Just don't compare them by the pricing factor. The box core is a next gen cpu, developed at unusual high costs and a dogma change (dx12) in mind. For sure ms targeted the same outup of quality like a (former) high end pc at much lower costs per unit.
                          From my point of view they did very well :) The gaming expirience is even better anyway and we realy dont need to complain when the results are looking so amazingly good. Especialy when compared with the 50% more powar mashine...

                      • Lets not clutter up the main thread with Parasite questions. The questions have been asked and concerns have been voiced. I would recommend using private messaging to address the issue further.

                        To Parasite76: Please respect MrXs wishes and not bring up "insider" type talks. It just fuels the fires.

                        Lets stay positive and have respectful debates on our opinions. Everyone is different in their personal preferences and beliefs. MisterXmedia has always let good debate flourish as long as its done with respect and knowledge. Its not usually accepted to say something can't happen "just because" you don't believe it. To have a good debate that doesnt lead into personal arguments is presenting your thoughts with specific explanation in relation to topic or links to proof backing of theories.

                        Lets keep this in mind and keep the forum respectful and clean.

                        Now that is out of the way... #GameOn!

                        -1LuV

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                        • BadCeeJay1975
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                          As far as I read, Parasite just wanted to get off his chest what happened at E3 and try to explain his actions. I didn't read it as more "insider" stuff unless i missed some posts on another thread? Parasite has been here a long time and deserves to at least put his side of the story across and then draw a line under it. I don't think this in itself contravenes MrX's wishes. If there are any further talks of insider information from him then that's different, I disagree with that.

                        • LuvOfThaGame
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                          1st I want to be clear. I like Parasite personally and I detach my personal feelings when it comes to my responsibilities as a moderator and member of this forum. MisterX has said he doesnt want Parasite to discuss "inside" talks here and yes, he recently did so. I dont believe thats right. I also dont believe its right to start a bashing parasite session either. He deserves the same respect as a human being as the rest of us, despite how those may feel about his predictions. There is a line that should not be crossed on a professional forum on both sides and the lines are being toed. Also, I would like to point out how you respectfully disagreed with my post. Thats how good debate is done and others should take note. :) 1LuV
                          Last edited by LuvOfThaGame; 06-24-2015, 10:16 PM.

                        • hardway
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                          Agree with CeeJay, I want to hear what happened in the lead up to E3 and at the expo itself. That is what I took Parasite to mean. I don't believe everything I read here, or anywhere, but I do enjoy all the different points of view and speculation that goes on here. I can see where Dwayne is coming from and respect his views, but we all don't need to be in lock step around here. I say put it out there and we can all judge for ourselves like big boys and girls.

                      • So for anyone that didnt know or if u knew but didnt say it. Check this out, my xblive ran out s I added my nephew to my system now I got xblive but also all his games, when did this feature started.

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                        • chefsledg
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                          Did you set him as the main account holder of the xbox? If so, I would expect that.

                        • Dakriz
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                          Nope I just added him n u tested hes games n thwy worked

                        • nannasin
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                          If you are logging in under his account to play games on xbox live then ya you will have access to all his stuff. Games are linked to the account not to the console.

                        • Dakriz
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                          No no no no no I added him to my fam so I could get his xbox live using my own GT but I went to check out B4 and notice that I had all the xpansion then I checked my games on the far right n notice I had a hellova lot of game I didnt own. Now yesterday he was playing GTA V so I tried tobplay GTA and it loaded up. Mind you I dont have GTA V but since adding him to my Fam now I have all his games and addons.

                      • i never read most insider dailys or pay attention to any "insiders" more interested in some of the stuff people in this group has posted. got to give it to the guys in the group they find all the news thats why this could have been one of the best xbox sites around. but reading all the parasite drama i drop over to p22 to see what was going on. wow it gave me the chuckles when ironically the ladies over at p22 made their mrx or parastie said ass bleeding bitch board private. if youre going to get bitchy be a bitch in public dont hide geesh.

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                        • just saw this article on ICMX.net and its pretty interesting and tells why we shouldn't stick with some sites like NeoGaf or Kotatu for general opinion, talking here about E3 and what ppl thought etc...which in certain sites such as the cited previously "their multiplat audience" gave the preference or mindshare vastly to PS on E3...

                          "According to Sythesio’s global marketing vice president, Leah Pope, 74% of global platform based discussions were about Xbox. A larger amount of the discussions were about the actual show, however Microsoft obviously stood out when it came to the general public’s impressions. Playstation, PC, and Wii took 13.4%, 7.6%, and 4.9% respectively."

                          Minshare on E3 according to Sythesio

                          source: http://www.icxm.net/x/xbox-one-high-...-after-e3.html
                          Last edited by Xone_br33; 06-24-2015, 09:45 PM.

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                          • LuvOfThaGame
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                            I think that really said it all. As passionate as we "hard core" gamers can be, we are but a very few compared to the average gamer. I'm always reminded of that while discussing topics on Xbox live during games. Most really have no idea about this "console war". They just play games.

                          • Seiya di Pegaso
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                            Tim Dog also posted it yesterday, really great news.

                          • angryguy77
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                            Gaming journalists should be given as much cred as movie critics. Often what the critics find to be good is not what the general public finds entertaining. This data reinforces that idea. If you read what the press said, you would think MS totally failed, which if they did, it's awfully odd they would be talked about.
                            This hobby of ours is about gaming, fun, and ways to connect with friends. Nobody wants to wait year/s to enjoy their system. MS has shown what we will have now, where sony is still just throwing promises of things to come.

                          • theGrimm77
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                            very impressive!

                          • chefsledg
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                            Thanks for the info! You gave me a new site to browse once in a while.

                        • VR "not for the whole world" - Epic CEO

                          Tim Sweeney says studio excited by VR, but AR is “the next big development in the history of civilization”

                          While Sweeney wouldn't go so far as Warren Spector and label VR a "fad," he did acknowledge that the market will be much more limited in its scope.

                          "VR is a 150 million user audience but it's not for the whole world. Whereas AR, if you look out a number of years I bet the majority of mankind will have an AR device - it will redefine interaction with computers and replace computer monitors, tablets, televisions and every kind of play technology. I think it's the next big development in the history of civilization, if you put it in perspective," Sweeney remarked.

                          Sweeney sees a parallel to the rise of mobile game development. Anyone who attempted to simply port console or PC genres to smartphones generally failed. Just as mobile required a new way of thinking, VR demands a different design.

                          "It definitely changes the rules. You cannot take a game designed without VR and just easily [remake] it for VR. It'll be an experience that doesn't look right, doesn't feel right, and makes you sick pretty quickly. Experiences that are built for VR at the foundational level are quite different - you can draw an analogy with smartphone and tablet gaming. The major genres on there are not your console genres because it requires a different style of gameplay. We're still very much in the early stages of the learning process," he said.

                          http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...world-epic-ceo

                          Game ON... One United!

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                          • babylonn75
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                            I completely agree. VR is only for games but AR potential is unlimited and can impact everyday life.

                          • QuazL
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                            I agree, but it will suffer from the same fate as 3D.

                            3D is doing better and better, but it is still tied down by glasses. They have nearly fixed the brightness issue and movies now are using it appropriately. The last things that holds back 3D are price and glasses. Once these are removed, most everything will be in 3D. 3D sales for movies now are about 1 out 3.5 tickets sales, Jurassic World was almost 1 out of 2.

                            Hololense will stir the pot and will be amazing, BUT it won't reach cell phone mass until it is in a contact lens or projected in real time without glasses.

                        • Thouse who don't understand xdk should talk "I don't understand it" instead of "it not possible". If its not possible please go in details and disapprove xdk how to read it in other way. We will listen and will tell what are you missing. Because trying to explain additional data structures from 1.31 paradigm is not possible. Additional data structures unnecessary for 1.31tf..but they are there. and then your only argument will be - its xdc doc error. But believing its and error is more stupid than believe there is something in my book.

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                          • MEGATRON 631
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                            I'm not too familiar with what the xdk is or proves but if one of the more techy people in here could give an explanation of what it says and what that means in simple terms I, and I believe many other forum members, would greatly appreciate it!

                          • revben
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                            It basically says xbox one four times eveything than the public spec say. From tflops to render back-end

                          • QuazL
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                            Why are we calling it the XDK? Isn't it the Xbox one SDK? Are we just shortening it?

                            Maybe I am behind the talking point.

                        • Original vision not changed. :-)
                          Xbox One sales may be suffering iin comparison to Sony's PS4, but that didn't stop Xbox head Phil Spencer and his colleagues from setting their sights on the remainder of 2015 with an impressive lin

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                          • jmerr74
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                            Good read. I'm very happy with my X1. I personally can't wait until the dash update...
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